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Austria Wins Against Prussia by Fenn-O-maniC Austria Wins Against Prussia by Fenn-O-maniC
Nothing speacial really, just Austria and its allies' victory in the Austro-Prussian War.
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NealMan11 Featured By Owner May 2, 2015
*shivers in disgust*
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Metalarchangel Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i love this map. :D
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VoCSe Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
1) The only way Austria is getting Lombardy back is if it's willing to fight France again. In fact, chances are Napoleon III might intervene anyway, either to force the Austrians out of Venetia (he was determined to expel them from the Italian Peninsula) or to grab a share of the Prussian Rhineland. Or maybe even to help Prussia.

2) Denmark getting back Holstein is a big no-no. The province offers the Austrians access to northern Germany, the Danes didn't really want it (their focus was on Schleswig) and giving it to them is a surefire way for Austria to insult German national feeling. Hell, even giving the Danes Schleswig is iffy.

3) Unified Hesse, Thuringia and Mecklenburg make no sense.

4) Luxembourg was Dutch. How did the Bavarians get it?
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15pops Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014  Student General Artist
1) After Napoleon I Austria gained Venice and Lombardy
2) In sense the Danes did want Holstein look up duchy of Holstein
3) There not unified using your logic that means Prussia Belgium Italy and Baden are united see were I'm going?
4) Same sense for 3)
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VoCSe Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014
1) And in 1859 it lost Lombardy. This map requires that it get it back.

2) Denmark did not want Holstein. There were very few Danes there. Denmark, on the contrary, wanted to separate Schleswig from Holstein, and it was precisely this that provided a casus belli for the 1864 war. My other objections remains: Austria would lose territory and offend even the most moderate of German nationalists by giving up Holstein.

3) No, I don't. I don't have any idea what the hell you're saying, and not just because you refuse to use punctuation. Prussia, Belgium, Italy, and Baden were *countries*. On the eve of the Austro-Prussian War, there were 2 or 3 countries making up the *region* of Hesse (Hesse-Darmstadt, Hesse-Kassel and Nassau, depending on whether or not you want to count it), 8 countries making up the *region* of Thuringia (Reuss-Gera, Reuss-Greiz, Saxe-Altenburg, Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Saxe-Meiningen, Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach, Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt, and Schwarzburg-Sondershausen), and 2 countries making up the *region* of Mecklenburg (Mecklenburg-Schwerin and Mecklenburg-Strelitz).

4) Since your answer to 3) made no sense, I ask again: How did Bavaria acquire Luxembourg, which in 1866 belonged to the Netherlands?
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15pops Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014  Student General Artist
3)Example- Just because on a world map if the USA is blue and say France is blue Does that mean the US owns France?Of course not
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VoCSe Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014
You could use a larger color palette and write "Small States" where appropriate. When you bother to depict Liechtenstein and San Marino on your map, it's normal to assume the other shapes are also countries.

Oh, and another thing: your Montenegro has a coastline, which it would not obtain until 1878.
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15pops Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014  Student General Artist
My Montenegro what are you talking about?
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VoCSe Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014
The. Country. Of. Montenegro. On. Your. Map.
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15pops Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Student General Artist
The date is 1914.....
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Metalarchangel Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i love it! :)
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks :D
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Metalarchangel Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
you're welcome :D
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Waracki99 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2013
Prussia is best!
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Guerillonist Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013
But why has Austria lost Holstein to Denmark?

PS: great work :)
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In fact I didn't knew about Austro-Prussian thinggy in there when I made this. But thanks!
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Impiex Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013
(Just as an idea:) Denmark may have offered to help Austria in the war, when Austria was in a rather bad situation, and gained Holstein in exchange back^^
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That could work. I'd also like the idea of "independent" duchy of Schleswig-Holstein under Habsburg rule though.
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Impiex Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
Maybe if Austria manages to form a German Empire (or Empire of Germany/of the German), Denmark would be one of the Empire's member states and therefore somehow "controled" by Austria, but could also gain some privileges compared to the other smaller states (more delegates in the Parliament, more autonomous than the other states...).

It also could at least help to explain Austria's victory over Prussia: When Prussian troops were fighting in the South against Austria, Denmark attacked from the exposed north because this "you-get-Schleswig/Holstein-back-if.you-help-us-and-become-a-rather-independent-part-of-our-empire"-thing was negotiated before the war. Just as a quick idea^^
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't know about Denmark being part of Germany but they would propably help Austrians if they would get their former territories back.
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Kaelling Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013
Actually, in the war of 1864 the Danish king offered the Prussian king for Denmark to join the German Federation in exchange for peace, but Bismarck was against it and carried the war on to win.
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, I didn't know that. :o
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Omg awesome Prussia may never lose XD


But well done of course^^
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks :XD:
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Olvideminombre Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013
Well that must be the most curbstomped Prussia I've seen in a while
How would Austria achieve such a victory?
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I didn't thought that actually.
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thefireandice Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013
Perhaps an intervention by Napoleon III in favor of Austria could lead to this result?
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why not. But In that case, France could have got bit of Rhineland for sure.
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thefireandice Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013
That would be an interesting map
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep. I can imagine also Belgium being in danger in that case.
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thefireandice Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013
That would certainly cause some good ol' fashion Anglo-French enmity
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That would be bit early World War then.
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Lehnaru Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's depressing. :(
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why? :D
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Lehnaru Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I like Prussia. ;)
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh :D
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QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013
Man, that's not just winning, that's a brutal curbstomping. Poor Prussia!
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Indeed.
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mrotsten Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013
it's like a dream come true...
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
It'd be nice to see a follow-up for this. :)
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I might to make something actually ;)
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013
:la:
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D
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FederalRepublic Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
Oh and by the way: While it looks REALLY good, the fact that the Hessian and Thuringian states merged and Saxony gained Altmark bother me. I mean all three of the Hessian states were pro-Austria and there is just no reason to unite them if they still have their various ruling houses. The situation is also similiar in Thuringia. In case of Saxony gaining Altmark it's just that it is traditionally part of Berlin's sphere and despite the fact that it was added to the Province of Saxony Dresden has no reason to annex it.
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mrotsten Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013
about that saxony thing: the Altmark really doesn't belong to Saxony. however, Berlin never had any reason (by your definition) to annex nothern saxony (which went all the way to Bad Belzig) and did it anyway, so why shouldn't it happen the other way around?

anyway, saxony should have definitely regained Lusatia in my opinion.
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Fenn-O-maniC Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was bit playing around with the idea. You may know what I mean. But thanks!
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FederalRepublic Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
I have no problem with Denmark regaining Schleswig-Holstein, Würrtemberg getting Hohenzollern and Hannover getting Oldenburg (and portions of Westfalen) though.
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kyuzoaoi Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Student Artist
Did Bismarck die early?
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FederalRepublic Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
Also Bismarck's dying earlier wouldn't have had that much of an impact. A minor victory, with some border adjustments in Silesia in favor for Vienna and preserving independence of Hesse-Kassel, Nassau and Hannover (not to mention Saxony, which suprisingly survived IOTL), sure. But for getting such a drastic dismembering of Prussia... That would require a miracle.
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